Shoulder Pain from Heart Attack vs. Pinched Nerve in Neck
There are distinctions in the shoulder pain from a heart attack vs. a pinched nerve in the neck.
But does this mean you can self-diagnose?
Shoulder pain from a heart attack can come on fairly suddenly, but so can pain caused by a pinched nerve in the neck (cervical vertebrae).
Biggest Difference Between Heart Attack Shoulder Pain & Pinched Nerve
Shoulder pain from a heart attack in progress (or very imminent one) will likely be accompanied by other key symptoms — either all, some or one other:
• Pain, squeezing, crushing or a vice-like sensation in the chest
• Feeling like you can’t get enough oxygen, shortness of breath, being winded even while at rest
• Nausea or upchucking
• Clammy cold and/or sweaty skin
• Lightheadedness, faint feeling
• Jaw pain
• Upper back pain, arm pain
A pinched nerve in the neck, though quite capable of causing a lot of shoulder pain, will not cause a feeling of being out of breath, shortness of breath, nausea/vomiting, breaking into a sweat, feeling faint, or pain in the chest or jaw.
What if a heart attack is causing just one symptom: shoulder pain?
A hallmark difference between heart attack shoulder pain and benign shoulder pain is that in the case of a cardiac event, the pain does NOT change with body position.
Shoulder pain from a pinched, compressed or irritated nerve that branches out of the spinal cord at the neck level will often fluctuate with body position.
“A pinched nerve can occur in the shoulder region in a defined area known as the thoracic outlet,” says Eugene Charles, DC, Diplomate of applied kinesiology and author of “Journey to Healing: The Art and Science of Applied Kinesiology.”
“The thoracic outlet is a narrow space between the collarbone and first rib located near your lower neck and upper chest where blood vessels, nerves and muscles pass through.
“It is surrounded by the neck flexor, upper trapezius and pectoral muscles. When this ‘pinching’ occurs, it’s known as thoracic outlet syndrome (TOS).
“When this happens on your left side it’s often confused with a heart attack (which you should go to the ER and rule out first).
“TOS differs from a heart attack in that these symptoms last longer and are affected by movement — meaning, if you slouch the symptoms intensify, and when you stretch out they dissipate.”
Furthermore, shoulder pain from a pinched nerve often comes with tingling, a “pins and needles” feeling, numbness and/or weakness down the arm, and/or these same symptoms in the hand or fingers.
These symptoms may come and go, and seem to correlate with body positions, whereas shoulder pain from a heart attack will not come and go with a change in body position.
There’s often some kind of pain in the neck and/or arm if there’s shoulder pain from a cervical nerve problem.
It’s usually a burning or sharp sensation. Some patients report that the pain is agonizing. Shoulder pain from a heart problem is not agonizing.
Shoulder pain from either a heart attack or a neck nerve issue often radiates or spreads down the arm.
This is what’s so scary, especially if there’s no numbness, tingling or “pins and needles” feeling present – AND especially if there’s jaw and/or chest pain!
“Let me start off by saying that this is NOT an area where self-diagnosis is a good idea,” says Roger Mills, MD, cardiologist and former professor of medicine, University of Florida, and author of “240 Beats per Minute. Life with an Unruly Heart.”
“If there’s a serious question in your mind, best to let a qualified medical professional evaluate the symptoms,” continues Dr. Mills.
“Second, my concern is not so much heart attack pain but the intermittent exertional discomfort called angina that signals a blood supply-demand mismatch in the heart.
“Angina is not always ‘chest pain,’ and chest pain is not always angina.
“Patients may sense the discomfort of angina in the shoulder (left or right), in the neck or jaw, or in the upper abdomen.
“The characteristic features of angina are that the discomfort comes on with exercise and is relieved by rest, and it is often associated with some sense of pressure or shortness of breath.
“In contrast, the sharp radiating pain from nerve root irritation may occur at rest, or with certain specific changes in position.
“The typical description [from a patient] is, ‘It hurts when I do this’ accompanied by a turn of the head or change in posture.”
What should you do?
“If you are experiencing a heart attack, time is heart muscle,” says Dr. Mills.
“Most medical centers in the U.S. now have programs that can significantly reduce the damage to your heart.
“Don’t sit at home and wait to see if it goes away.”
Though you may believe that the shoulder pain is from a recent incident in the gym, Dr. Charles advises,“When this occurs on your left side it can often mimic a heart attack. As a precautionary measure, you should immediately go to the ER and make sure it is not.
“Once cleared, you can go to your physical medicine specialist, such as a doctor of chiropractic or osteopathy, and be examined to see if your symptoms are from TOC.”
A trip to the ER will get you a blood test that can show if you had a heart attack.
A heart attack damages cardiac muscle, releasing a protein into the bloodstream which will be detected by the blood test.
If you’re cleared from having had a heart attack, you may be also be advised to see a neurosurgeon who specializes in the treatment of pinched nerves.
An MRI will show nerve compression in the neck.
Dr. Charles has helped thousands of patients and taught over 1,200 doctors during his 30+ years of practice. He has also created the Power Kinetics® Exercise Program and line of nutritional vitamins and performance supplements. amazon.com/Journey-Healing-Science-Applied-Kinesiology/dp/0964421763
Dr. Mills is the former medical director of the heart failure and heart transplant service at the University of Florida, was a staff cardiologist at The Cleveland Clinic and has authored over 100 peer-reviewed publications. “240 Beats a Minute” is available on Amazon.
Lorra Garrick has been covering medical, fitness and cybersecurity topics for many years, having written thousands of articles for print magazines and websites, including as a ghostwriter. She’s also a former ACE-certified personal trainer.
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Congestive Heart Failure vs. ALS: Symptom Comparison
If you’ve been suffering from worsening fatigue, congestive heart failure may come to mind, but ALS can also cause this.
Is there a difference between early stages of ALS fatigue and that of mild congestive (now known as “chronic”) heart failure?
Chronic heart failure is when the ability of the heart to pump an adequate supply of blood with each beat is compromised.
There may or may not be an issue of congestion causing fluid retention.
Systolic heart failure is when an insufficient volume of blood gets pumped with each beat due to weak cardiac muscle, though the chambers of the heart fill with an adequate supply of blood to be pumped.
Diastolic heart failure is when the pumping action is adequate, but not enough blood fills the chambers to be pumped out with each beat.
ALS is a motor neuron disease in which the nerves fail to properly conduct electrical impulses to contract muscle fibers.
This problem originates in the spinal cord, brain stem and brain where neurons start dying.
As a result, muscle tissue—because it never receives instructions to contract from the dead nerve cells—begins wasting away.
Chronic congestive heart failure and ALS cause fatigue.
But is the fatigue from one different from the other? At least in the early stages of ALS vs. mild heart failure?
As ALS progresses, other symptoms come into play that don’t fit the bill for a cardiac problem.
And as chronic heart failure progresses, this too brings forth symptoms that are not present with ALS at any stage.
Symptoms of Class II and III Chronic Heart Failure
- Comfortable at rest, but normal physical activity may cause fatigue and shortness of breath (II) or with III, you’re still okay at rest, but there’s an obvious limitation with even mild exercise: fatigue and shortness of breath.
- Fatigue is actually one of the first-noticed symptoms.
- Along with that fatigue in early CHF may also be edema (swelling) in the ankles, and weight gain from fluid retention.
As congestive heart failure progresses, you’ll probably also experience a cough from fluid buildup in the lungs, wheezing and a shortness of breath that’s not only from impaired pumping action of the heart, but fluid buildup (edema) in the lungs.
This will cause an increasing intolerance to exercise or physical activity.
As CHF progresses, the patient will experience shortness of breath at rest—and in fact, may need supplemental oxygen for sleep.
The CHF patient does not have a mechanical problem with breathing; their ability to inhale works just fine.
The issue is inadequate blood circulation and edema in the lungs. In fact, they may have no problem whatsoever taking deep breaths.
“Shortness of breath” is not the same as difficulty inhaling.
“Shortness of breath” is what one feels when there’s not enough oxygen circulating in their body—as in a healthy person who just sprinted across a parking lot, or a person with CHF who just walked up a short flight of stairs.
“Muscular weakness is a prominent feature with ALS, and exercise intolerance is a hallmark of heart failure,” says Roger Mills, MD, cardiologist and former professor of medicine, University of Florida, and author of “240 Beats per Minute. Life with an Unruly Heart.”
“However, the weakness of ALS is more or less constant and slowly progressive.
“Early on, heart failure patients are not so much weak as [they are] exercise intolerant.
“The ALS patient can’t go up stairs because he/she does not have the leg strength to lift his/her body.
“The heart failure patient can’t make it all the way up because he/she becomes short of breath after five or six steps.”
The collection of CHF symptoms are hard to dismiss as the disease progresses. These include loss of appetite, fluid retention and nausea.
A unique characteristic of CHF is that, due to the impaired pumping action of the heart, blood is diverted away from the arms and legs (less critical areas), to supply the brain and heart.
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Patients thus often feel weakness or fatigue in their legs and arms. This will affect the activities of daily living.
Meanwhile, again, they have no trouble breathing, but often FEEL short of breath.
As for the actual ability to walk up a flight of stairs, let alone hop up the steps, “It depends on how far ALS has progressed,” says Mitzi J. Williams, MD, clinical neurologist with Morehouse School of Medicine and clinical advisor for the Multiple Sclerosis Foundation.
“In early stages, someone may be able to hop up the stairs,” says Dr. Williams.
“If weakness and fasciculations progress, this will no longer become possible. The symptoms only continue to progress — so the symptom will not improve once they can no longer hop up the stairs.”
As chronic heart failure worsens, the patient will still be able to climb a staircase with normal ambulation – with no impairment in the operation of their neuromuscular system.
However, there may be pauses every few steps as they catch their breath.
Symptoms of Early ALS
- Difficulty walking, which may include stumbling
- Weakness in the legs
- At this point, the arms may feel fine (whereas in CHF, all four limbs are simultaneously affected due to blood-supply diversion)
- Cramping muscles
- Twitching muscles
- Slurred speech
- Trouble swallowing
If someone with ALS has at least one other symptom besides fatigue or weakness, this will point away from congestive or chronic heart failure.
For instance, CHF doesn’t cause slurred speech or tripping due to lack of coordination.
ALS typically starts in one part of the body, then spreads, whereas the weakness and fatigue of congestive (or chronic) heart failure is global since it’s caused by inadequate blood supply.
As ALS progresses, respiratory function becomes impaired. Breathing is controlled by muscles.
Because motor impulses are not reaching these muscles, the patient begins experiencing difficulty with the mechanics of breathing. But by then, they will have already been diagnosed.
As both congestive heart failure and ALS progress, the disparity in their symptom profiles increases, though they often just begin with weakness and/or fatigue.
The element of weakness, rather than fatigue, is more pronounced in early ALS; and the element of fatigue, rather than weakness, is more prominent in mild congestive heart failure.
Dr. Williams is author of “MS Made Simple: The Essential Guide to Understanding Your Multiple Sclerosis Diagnosis.” She is a member of the American Academy of Neurology.
Dr. Mills is the former medical director of the heart failure and heart transplant service at the University of Florida, was a staff cardiologist at The Cleveland Clinic and has authored over 100 peer-reviewed publications. “240 Beats a Minute” is available on Amazon.
Lorra Garrick has been covering medical, fitness and cybersecurity topics for many years, having written thousands of articles for print magazines and websites, including as a ghostwriter. She’s also a former ACE-certified personal trainer.
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Sudden Sharp Chest Pains on Left Side: Causes
There’s actually quite a few causes of sudden sharp pain on the left side of one’s chest, ranging from heart problems to serious lung conditions to harmless muscle strains.
Causes of Sharp Chest Pain on the Left Side
“The ‘type’ of pain or the location of the pain in the chest area doesn’t necessarily rule out heart-related issues,” says Dr. Kavitha Chinnaiyan, MD, a cardiologist at William Beaumont Hospital in Royal Oak, MI.
“Although the heart is placed slightly to the left of the midline in the chest, heart-related discomfort can be located anywhere above the diaphragm.”
Acute pericarditis is one such cause of sharp pain on the left side of the chest.
This presents most commonly with a sharp stabbing pain in the chest, behind the breastbone or in the left side of one’s chest.
However, in some patients, sometimes the discomfort is dull or aching rather than sharp and stabbing.
What is pericarditis?
The pericardium is a sac-like membrane; it surrounds the heart. When this membrane becomes irritated or swollen, it’s pericarditis.
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Sharp chest pain is not typically due to coronary artery blockages, but “not typically” doesn’t mean it can’t ever be, either.
Pain Worse with Movement
If this is the case, it rarely means coronary artery disease.
Blood Clot in a Lung
This has the potential to cause a sharp pain.
Does your left side sharp chest pain fluctuate with movement?
Dr. Laman says that this “most commonly indicates that the ribs, muscles, cartilage [costochondritis] or lungs [e.g., pneumonia, pleuritis] are involved.”
Signs that Left Side Sharp Chest Pain Is not a Heart Blockage
• Pain increases with inhalation
• Duration is a few seconds
• Gets worse when you press on your chest
• Movement aggravates it
How likely is left sided sharp chest pain to be a heart attack?
Harvard Health Publications says that “pain clearly on one side of the body than the other” is “less likely to be a heart attack.”
However, a heart attack CAN cause pain on the left side—but it’s usually not sharp, piercing or stabbing.
Additional Causes of Sharp Pain on the Left Side of the Chest Only
• Intercostal neuralgia (damage to nerves that run between the ribs)
• Heartburn/acid reflux
• Recent pressure against the breast
About that last point, that has happened to me. A person may confuse a pain that originates in the breast with one that’s more “chesty,” so I thought I’d mention it.
I had been leaning forward and massaging my left elbow (golfer’s elbow) with my right hand.
My right arm kept pressing against the right side of my right breast.
A few hours later I started getting shooting, stabbing pains there.
Over time I noticed that when this occurred, I had massaged my elbow a few hours prior.
I then began massaging my elbow in a different sitting position, making sure my right arm was not contacting my breast.
The sharp right “chest” pain never returned.
So if this kind of pressure is occurring to your left breast (which can also happen if you sleep on it wrong), then it just could trigger a sharp pain that seems to be coming from your chest.
My doctor told me that this phenomenon is the result of breast tissue being very sensitive, and it’s nothing to worry about.
Dr. Chinnaiyan has authored and co-authored 100+ manuscripts and abstracts. She has served as the Chair of the Board of Directors of the American Heart Association of Southeast Michigan.
Lorra Garrick has been covering medical, fitness and cybersecurity topics for many years, having written thousands of articles for print magazines and websites, including as a ghostwriter. She’s also a former ACE-certified personal trainer.
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health.harvard.edu/heart-health/chest-pain-a-heart-attack-or-something-else
pijn.com/en/patients/cause-of-pain/diagnoses-per-body-region/upper-back-chest/intercostal-neuralgia/
If You Had a Heart Problem Would Chest Hurt if Pressed?
So if you have a heart problem like severely clogged arteries or a rhythm disorder, would pressing your fingers or palm on your chest bring out any pain?
What if you were having a heart attack?
“Pain reproduced by pressing on the chest or with body motion” is “less likely to be a heart attack,” according to Harvard Health Publications.
The key term here is “less likely.” This does not mean “100 percent definitely not.”
CAN a heart attack make pressing on the chest hurt?
“It can, even though there is a misunderstanding that pain on pressing the chest wall means it is not coming from the heart,” says Dr. Kavitha Chinnaiyan, MD, a cardiologist at William Beaumont Hospital in Royal Oak, MI.
Dr. Chinnaiyan is founder of Heal Your Heart, Free Your Soul, an online, yoga-based prevention program.
Dr. Chinnaiyan explains, “On rare occasions, there can be tenderness over the chest wall when one is having a heart attack or pain as a result of blocked arteries.
“In general, however, pain when pressing on the chest wall happens in heart-unrelated conditions like inflammation of the rib joints (known as costochondritis).”
Kaiser Permanente Health Matters states that “If chest pain increases if you press your finger on the painful site, it is probably from a strained muscle, ligament or maybe even a fractured rib.”
Costochondritis is an inflammation of the cartilage in the chest wall (this is no secret among weightlifters), and this kind of pain should last only several days.
Movement and pressing on the hurting area will aggravate it.
Have you ever noticed that in any of the symptom lists you’ve read for heart attack (or pending attack), the symptom of “hurts when the area is pressed on” never shows up?
Heart Attack Symptoms
• Pain is not responsive to rest
• Sweating
• Nausea
• Shortness of breath
• Weakness
More Symptoms to Consider
• Tightness, burning, fullness, squeezing or pressure in the chest
• Pain in center of chest
• Numbness, prickling, pinching or pain in the jaw, neck, back or one or both arms
• Vomiting
• Dizziness or lightheadedness
• Unexplained fatigue
• Cold sweat
What about arrhythmia symptoms?
• Fluttering in chest
• Racing pulse
• Slow pulse
• Chest pain
• Shortness of breath
• Dizziness, lightheadedness
• Sweating
• Fainting, feeling faint
These arrhythmia symptoms are also typical on symptom lists, and “hurts to press chest” is never included.
Kirk Laman, MD, a cardiologist with healthcentral.com, states on the site: “…women with heart blockages sometimes present with sharp pain. As a general rule, the pain is not worse with pressing on the chest.”
The key phrase is “As a general rule.”
So what does all of this mean?
• Never assume unexplained chest pain can’t be a heart attack or severe artery blockage just because it doesn’t hurt to press on your chest.
• Discomfort from pressing on your chest does not rule out a heart problem.
• In the vast majority of cases when pressing on the chest hurts, there is not a heart problem.
Dr. Chinnaiyan has authored and co-authored 100+ manuscripts and abstracts. She has served as the Chair of the Board of Directors of the American Heart Association of Southeast Michigan.
Lorra Garrick has been covering medical, fitness and cybersecurity topics for many years, having written thousands of articles for print magazines and websites, including as a ghostwriter. She’s also a former ACE-certified personal trainer.
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health.harvard.edu/heart-health/chest-pain-a-heart-attack-or-something-else
wellness.uci.edu/chestpain.pdf
mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-arrhythmia/symptoms-causes/dxc-20188128
healthcentral.com/heart-disease/c/410684/84172/sharp-chest/
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Heart Palpitations While Walking: Causes & Solutions
Is there something inherently unique about walking that causes PVCs or heart palpitations?
Yes, there is something that just might be going on only when you walk.
And one of those is anxiety.
“Stress and anxiety are the most common cause of heart palpitations,’ says J. Mark Anderson, MD, DABFM, of Executive Medicine of Texas and who is board certified in family medicine.
Let’s take a look at anxiety as a reason why your palpitations seem to occur only during times of walking.
The term “palpitations” is sometimes used to reference a suddenly racing pulse.
But it more commonly refers to what seems to be a delayed, skipped or extra heartbeat.
And this sensation is also often referred to as PVCs: premature ventricular contractions.
It’s the PVC that makes you think that your heart skipped a beat or had a sudden irregular beat, flutter or thumping.
First, take note of when your walking seems to bring on the PVCs.
“Some people tend to go for long walks or power walks as a way to deal with the stress of the day or to start their morning,” says Dr. Anderson.
“When the walks are coupled with stressful thoughts, like what awaits you at the office, palpitations are more likely to occur.”
Maybe they occur only when you’re walking from the parking lot of your workplace to your office? Hmmm, very interesting!
This sounds like job anxiety — a “program” running in the back of your mind as you subconsciously anticipate stress from your boss, coworkers, clients or workload.
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Is it only when you walk on a treadmill? Perhaps this is the time that your mind wanders, venturing into stressful territory, or maybe there’s an influx of intrusive negative thoughts.
Maybe while you’re walking for fitness, you just can’t help play out in your mind some unnerving scenarios, such as confronting a hostile family member about the money they owe you.
Maybe it’s a time that you usually re-enact scenarios that have already happened—that you wished you had handled differently and you’re mad at yourself for not.
Stress and anxiety can definitely trigger palpitations — and maybe those treadmill walks, or walking in the nearby park or walking your dog, are a conditioned stimulus for feeling stressed.
Have you noticed that, despite walking “causing” your PVCs, you don’t get PVCs or palpitations while you’re strength training at the gym or engaged in other activity that’s more intense and distracting than mere walking?
This is a tip-off that the PVCs are being generated by anxiety — that’s triggered by walking.
However, here’s a fair question:
Is there something inherent in the actual biomechanics of walking that causes palpitations?
“These can be worsened by the use of caffeine,” begins Dr. Anderson.
“This is because your heart rate tends to speed up in these circumstances.
“The same is true when walking, especially power walking. If no other symptoms are present, it will normalize when you sit down or relax.
“Palpitations that are accompanied with dizziness, fatigue or other symptoms should be evaluated by a healthcare provider.”
More times than not, though, it’s just that walking sometimes encourages thoughts to wander and imaginations to get a little wild, and the walking may also be towards a source of stress, such as your workplace from the parking lot, or the mall where you face large shopping tasks.
The Key Questions
• Whenever you have palpitations, are you always walking?
• They never occur during heavier physical exertion?
• Never during gardening (which can be very relaxing)?
• Never during yoga, swimming or strength training?
• And…it’s only sometimes during walking, not always?
Answering “yes” to these questions points towards anxiety as a cause.
You may also want to ask yourself what you eat or drink shortly before going on fitness walks. As Dr. Anderson pointed out, caffeine can trigger palpitations.
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Another Big Question
Have you been diagnosed with heart disease? If so, the presence of PVCs or palpitations becomes more significant.
It’s advisable that you get a full exam by a cardiologist to see if you might be at risk for coronary heart disease.
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The doctor may order a cardiac stress test and echocardiogram. PVCs with coronary heart disease are not a good combination.
That said, you should also ask yourself if walking has become a conditioned stimulus for palpitations because every time you walk for an extended period, you start worrying about PVCs!
Maybe you had a few PVCs while walking, and that single incident has now thrown you for a loop? Anxiety triggers hormones that can make the heart jump or flutter.
PVCs can have a medical cause and also be caused by liquor, medications and magnesium/potassium deficiency.
But again, if you have them ONLY when walking, this points away from a pathological or pharmaceutical cause.
